wisconsin to subsidize california's high had high-speed rail? >> well, the investments across america amount to a little over $10 billion so far. that's federal so far. >> right. >> and obviously, states are putting in their own money. california's doing that. as i said, a high-speed rail in california over the next ten years. >> do you believe -- >> and cost is, currently, $69 billion -- even though you're a young man on your birthday here, you've been around a while. you've seen how this inflationary trend can go. do you have any guess what the real number is? >> i don't. >> it's likely to go up, won't you agree with that? >> well, i'll let that be your -- [laughter] >> okay. having watched how much time often transpires from the beginning to the end of these, i think it's a reasonable expectation. i want to go to a broader or question now -- a broader question now, because i do believe that there's friction that's put in our economy as a result of lack of investment in transportation here in the u.s. i think that's clear. and if we want to be